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2005 West Virginia National Gathering Details

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NEW Cranberry Glade Site Directions:
From Elkins, WV
take Hwy 219 south for about 70 miles to the town of Mill Point.  Turn Right on 55/39. Go 6 miles to RD 150.  Turn right on 102 which is 6/10ths of a mile past 150.  Welcome Homeless.
From Interstate 64:  Exit from Interstate 64 on Highway 219 (exit 169).  Go North on 219 to 55/39 and follow directions above.

Kiddie Village has moved to the new site, and what's left of the water system (The Incident Command Team stole a lot of it on Sat) and CALM are already there trying to get setup. Yes, the Forest Service is helping make sure everyone gets sick by removing our ability to produce clean water.

Original Sully Road site:
From Elkins, WV take 33 east past Bowden to Alpena (approx 13 mi). At the Alpena Lodge & Cafe (the only thing there) take a left (north) up County Rd. 12, also known as Galdwin Rd and CR26 in some areas. CR12 goes thru the countryside and dives down toward the Glady Fork (approx 5 mi). At the bottom of the hill, just before CR12 crosses the Glady Fork River & turns into CR10-Sully Rd, take a hard (120%) left on to FR 162, which is Bus Village. Go to the gated end of Bus Village (FR162). Just beyond the gate is a meadow on the left. At the back right of this meadow is Easy Street, a gentle grassy ancient railroad bed, which goes off to the left. Follow Easy Street up to Main Trail and take a right to Main Circle, which is the third meadow on the trail.

From the East, from Harrisonburg, VA take 33 west into Wavy past Franklin, WV and Seneca Rocks. Stay on US 33 past Wymer to Alpena, take a right on CR12 and follow the above.

If you are planning to fly, consider flying into Charleston, Pittsburgh, Baltimore or Washington DC. Driving from Pittsburgh would be the fastest; it is approx. 150 miles away and Baltimore the furthest distance, at approx. 250 miles. I did a quick check of airline prices, and at this point, airline tickets to DC seem to be the cheapest. However, airline prices fluctuate every day or so, so it is best to compare prices.

If you are considering taking a bus, the closest stop is in Clarksburg, which is about 50 miles from Elkins. Greyhound bus service is available to Clarksburg from Pittsburgh, Baltimore and DC.

Barton Knob (aka Cheat Mountain) site:
There is also another camp on what has been speculated to be a restored strip mine site. It is known as Barton Knob and further information concerning these folks can be found below.

Directions to Barton Knob from Elkins, South on 219 to Huttonsville, southeast on 250 9 miles to FR227, opposite FR92 at top of Cheat Mountain.  Follow 227 7 miles to 233, then right .3 miles to 233A, hard right then 1.7 miles up hill to bus village.  We will probably have a drop off, turnaround shuttle scene at intersection of 223 and 223A, cause best parking is on 227.

Topographic maps of all three sites, can be found on Hawker's website.

For the most up-to-date information concerning this year's annual gathering, check any of the following:

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NERF: (845) 774-4100
Atlanta: (770) 662-6112
Mid-Atlantic: (202) 797-3625 (Pyremal)
New York Rainbow: (212) 560-7111

WelcomeHome.org Annual Site
Hawker's Directions, Pics & Topo Maps
WelcomeHere.org 2005 National Gathering
S.C.R.O.L.L. Gathering Directions

There is a post office box for the 2005 Rainbow Gathering of the Tribes. The bank is set up so please make donation checks or money orders out to: Rainbow Peace Gathering 2005 and send to:

RAINBOW PEACE GATHERING 2005
P. O. Box 4591
Charlottesville, VA 22905

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Other sites announcing the Gathering in West Virginia:
Great Lakes Rainbow
Dreamernine9
New York Rainbow

Map links for Hillsboro, West Virginia:
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Weather link for the Hillsboro, West Virginia: Weather.com

Thanksgiving Council Notes

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Note by Jane June 24th concerning Barton Knob Site

NERF and several other kitchens feel that the smallness of the site at Cranberry Glen and its potentional for overcrowding, could case some health issues.  Thus NERF, Musical Vegie and Grateful Dread have moved to another site until they can get assessments from other scouts.   The site is very large (over three times larger than the Cranberry Glen site) with much off road parking away from any highways. There is a large area for a bus village encampment.   There is plenty of good water and good swimming in the river which is adjacent to the site. There are several large meadows and forested land.

Note by Joan from Maine June 24th concerning Barton Knob Site

i am passing this on from NERF kitchen:

Reasons for NERF Kitchen Consensus to not go to Pocohontas County, primarily because the Family consensed not to go there at TG Council.  Secondly, the Forest Service put the Family there (and many felt they had no choice.  Now they do)  The fact that the Family has lost three members in Poc. County,  Two girls murdered in 1980, a man in 90 or 91 while in the County jail (same sherriff)

Reasons for not going there now,  It's too small (one square mile in a triangle, surrounded by roads. The woods are  taped off so those who step into them (the Wilderness) will be ticketed.  It is a swamp.  Cars are already getting stuck and it has been a dry spring. It's a health issue, as well, how do you dig a shitter in a swamp.  Family doesn't gather in Wilderness areas generally.

Folks have gone there today to invite the Cranberry people to join us.

There is no cell service at the site, and the nearest pay phone is over 20 miles,  Library in Elkins.

Need to go, I am on a supply run today.  Please join us in a beautiful spot, and support a safe healthy unparanoid gathering.

PS Forest Service has told us we do not need a permit for this site.

Comments from Glowing Feather June 23nd concerning Cranberry Glade Site

This is the glowing feather at the cranberry site. It's not a perfect world but we are gathering the 2005 national rainbow family of living light at the cranberry site. I do hope that you will join Granola funk, Krishna kitchen, fantuzzi & the variety show, Yoga Camp, Katuah, Instant soup, turtle Island, Mudd, Kiddie Village & our 4th of July celebration of our relation (we elation). We really had no choice at the time of heavy LEO ticketing and threatening of cars to be towed. For those who are proposing to separate to another location please reconsider. Do not let you ego rule and be separate from the rest of us. The council on the land decided to move. I did not support it but did not block because I was not willing to take a stand where there was a chance for environmental problems. I am sure it was bulshit but we are here now and everything is ok with parking. They will even open nature center parking for overflow. Please again come to the nationals. You can spend anytime camping in the woods with your small clan but only once a year can you have this magic moment with each other. With all my love and Open Heart, come hOME

Glowing Feather the MaJi

Comments from Hawker June 22nd concerning Cranberry Glade Site

Last report from me before hitting site

Spoke with several folks today, both on and off site as well as LOCAL Cranberry resource folks Many large kitchens are considering boycotting this site for health and environmental reasons. But while the Armchair Warrior Elders sit home and talk about how unworkable the site is, the young kids are busy making lemonade and getting dug in.

The word is that the site is not that boggy, not as boggy as Michigan was and slightly larger than Michigan.

The heavy handedness of the LEOs seem to have gotten them in trouble and removed. There are less and less LEOs present every moment. Today they were scarce being replaced with both local and federal resource folks (instead of the LEO folks as usual) who are now managing this from a resource perspective and not law enforcement as we have seen the last several years. Cooperation is high as resource and Rainbows work together in a method of cooperation not seen for many years. Concessions are being made by the FS of the level that has not been seen in years and years. Folks feel good, dug in, feel the site has obstacles, but is workable without health and safety issues. The main focus I kept getting is although this is a challenging site, it is not as unsafe or challenging as Michigan was. Is seems that the obsticals of this site, and the lack of elder support has brought the younger kids together to forge ahead and make a gathering from this. The advesary we are facing has made them strong, tight, and wiser. Congratulations to the kids.

I will check things out myself tomorrow and report back, if I can, on my take on all this.

Regardless of what is happening or will happen we will gather somewhere in the area. Please don't let the early confusion discourage you. The most important part is that we gather, no matter what we face. And wherever, however that happens we must gather.
CU on the land

Comments from Rob June 20th concerning site concensus misunderstanding:

Just to make things really confusing, it appears my earlier post was wrong somewhat. The council on the 18th didn't make any consensus, it was mostly just a loud discussion/argument. Some folks announced they were moving to the other site, and called me first thing this morning... But in more phone calls (it's rung of the hook all day) it appears that most people may be staying put and not moving. I've listed both sets of directions now on my web site until it's clearer what is truly going on. I figure the next 24 hours things will be clearer because in the past any site change has either happened right away and very fast, or not at all...

It also turns out the "new site" has a paved main road running right through main circle... I guess this is the forest services idea of a good main trail... I think I'd rather go to Elkins and get harassed. The folks at strip mine have said they'll probably be moving to the new site, but not right away till they see what's happening.

Comments from Hawker June 19th regarding the blockade:

Woza, what a day. My phone has been ringing off the hook all day.

First the facts, then the commentary. It's hard to get all the truth because I am not there and many stories conflicts with each other. I have spoken today with several folks on site and many others and am trying to piece together the real story.As for the new site. My directions from folks on site are slightly different than Rob's. It is in Cranberry Glades. The directions are take 219 70 miles south of Elkins to Mill Point. Turn Right on 55/39. Go 6 miles to Rd 150. Left 6/10 of a mile to 102. Left on 102. This would seem that the directions for folks not on site already (coming from Elkins) are : Interstate 64 to 219 (exit 169). North on 219 to 55/39 and follow the rest of the directions.

Also as I understand this there never was a consensus to move the site. I last spoke to the scouts Friday Night. At the time they had just found this new site. They said it had some good points, but a major road went right through main meadow. They also said they didn't want to move and were upset that they heard folks wanted to move. Given this I don't understand why most rumors now are the scouts said lets go when others said no. I won't know the real story till I am able to talk to them. Kid Village called a council for Saturday. I was told that there was lots of shouting and arguing and no consensus. Then KV and the scouts just left to the new site. I spoke to no one on site who wanted to move or who thought that they should move, yet they are moving since the feel beat by the FS, Scouts and KV.

Re: The stolen water pipe rumor. Here is what I know. There was a stash of water pipe at the back door. It was NOT all the water pipe, perhaps 1/5th of it at best. I personally saw this water pipe on Friday. On Saturday there were horse tracks all around it but it was not there any more. This is the water pipe that was stolen by the FS. AFAIK the big stash is under cover and safe where I left it, but i have not confirmed this. I left the rest with a responsible person who made effort to keep it hidden as they were concerned about it being stolen already.

Re: Endangered species issues. Every local authority on the endangered/threatened species issue has told me it is bullshit. That there are issues in the area but not here. This is a public and popular campsite because it is safe. In addition I was told a regular festival is held on the same site each year with over 3,000 people. That wouldn't happen if there were issues.

I was told that several folks will call me tonight or tomorrow morning from site with more updates and info. I personally am meeting with one of the scouts in a few hours and will upload topo maps to Rob and my site as well.

Some folks are gathering/staying in other sites including the strip mine (RJ) near Elkins and other campsites trying to re-group and figure out what to do. There are also other sites that are better that the scouts found, but didn't use because they liked the Elkins site, so why are we not going to them? This site is a set up. It was chosen by the FS because it was closer to there camp in Snowshoe resort and because it is easier for the FS to drive into the site. I am being told that the parking lot crew is signing the permit for this FS chosen site and is trying to make sure there are not the kind of issues we had last year (no nudity, dogs on leashes, drive ins by the FS etc) but my trust for the Tim Lynn and the FEDs is 0. They have already lied to us on several occasions this year alone and broken several promises.

O.k. So the commentary (or more blatantly commentary).
WHAT THE FUCK ARE WE DOING PEOPLE! This is dangerous precedence we are setting here letting the FS know they can whip us into submission. Now they think they can run things every year. There is no telling what they will try to pull next year. In addition we need to NOT be in Pocahontas county. There is no support system there. The town doesn't love us like Elkins did. The Emergency Management system there has only BLS not ALS (Basic/Advanced Life Support) for emergencies. Elkins has ALS. They are only volunteers so it impacts them more than the larger more established town of Elkins. We loose all the work and time we have done working with local businesses and agencies as well as understanding the site and how to best use it. Buisness owners who stuck there neck out to help us now get screwed and loose $$$ (they bought extra supplies for us). This happened because the site was mostly populated by young, inexperienced kids who lacked past knowledge on how to fight this as well as the support of enough people to maintain the site. In addition most of the experienced folks were hiding in town, other campsites or the back door rather than teaching the kids how to fight and encouraging them. By the time folks, myself included, started working to motivate folks and teach them how to reclaim the site moral had been to far lost and we had been beat. There are plenty of other ways into the first site from many angles. They can't stop us all if we just keep showing up there.

We need to ignore all rumors, including those of a moved site and return to the original site, where we can safely gather in a good location. When enough folks show up then we can reclaim the site from the federalies.

An archive of Hawker's 2005 National Gathering comments are available here.

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